Disingenuous Bullshit
November 29th, 2007
Mr. Churchill’s been having fun again, lecturing to a packed-in audience. The usual suspects are howling that every word’s a lie. They’re providing no specific examples, of course, instead using the occasion to do their usual round of frothing at the mouth, hopping up and down, and smacking each other in the genitals with copies of An Inconvenient Book.
While Churchill’s question-and-answer session fostered a hostile and tense environment, his lecture progressed without interruption, save an occasional smattering of applause or murmur of unease.
Though Churchill made national headlines for his commentary about Sept. 11, he spent most of his lecture arguing that the United States’ westward expansion in the 19th century and “extermination” of American Indians was akin to the ideology behind the Holocaust.
“You find in the later pages of Mein Kampf an articulation of Hitler that comes from an analysis of empires,” Churchill said. “He’s examining the other European powers for models that would be an applicable model of the German destiny. He points directly to what he calls the Nordics of North America. The United States is the model.”
Churchill decried the treatment of American Indians, stating the Puritans were “boat people” who deprived them of their land.
“No one was deceived that there was no habitation, no human population in North America,” he said. “[American Indians] were humans who were at best peripheral, at best a utility to those who were anointed superior … who were coming in to acquire that which was theirs.”
In the last 15 minutes of his hour-long lecture, Churchill shifted his emphasis to Israel, arguing that Zionists use the same justifications as did Hitler to perpetrate what he believes is a Palestinian genocide.
“How did it become the Palestinians who bore the onus of responsibility to compensate [the Jews] for what had been done to them by Northwest Europeans?” Churchill asked.
Churchill said radical Zionists conspired with the Nazi regime in order to broker a deal for a Jewish homeland.
“You have active negotiations going on between more radical Zionist organizations, the fascist Italians and Nazis themselves,” he said. “Zionists would collaborate with the Nazis in what would be arranged as guerrilla operations against the British war effort … in exchange for a certain guarantee that there would be a territory set aside in that area for Jews and Jews alone.”
As Churchill concluded his lecture, approximately 10 audience members stood in a line to ask a question. Though Churchill said questions “should be limited to 3.5 seconds,” most audience members ignored his request.
“As a proven academic fraud and imposter, what basis can you claim in coming to a public university, which is funded by the government, which from your speeches and writing you so clearly despise?” asked Pete Markevich, a junior political science major.
Markevich was referring to Churchill’s dismissal by the CU Regents, who had conducted an investigation into claims that Churchill had falsified and fabricated research, lied about his American Indian heritage and plagiarized other authors. Churchill is currently suing CU, claiming he was fired in retaliation for an essay in which he wrote that the “little Eichmanns” in the World Trade Center - an allusion to convicted Nazi war criminal Adolf Eichmann - deserved to die.
Markevich attempted to explain his question further, but Churchill told him to “shut up.”
“My answer is, far more than you,” Churchill said. “By the way, you want to look at the famous university report? The university has completely withdrawn that from scholarly scrutiny. There is no case other than the ‘little Eichmanns’ thing.”
Markevich responded by asking Churchill to clarify his Sept. 11 remarks.
“Three young high school students were traveling on a plane to an award ceremony. Of course, they never made it,” Markevich said. “They were murdered.”
“By Bush and Cheney,” someone shouted, to wild applause by some of the audience. Churchill smiled and shrugged, but did not comment.
“My question is, were those three students part of a cog in a capitalist machine and were they also ‘little Eichmanns’ who deserved to die as you claimed?” Markevich said.
“That was an amazingly stupid question,” Churchill said. “If you have a reading comprehension above the eighth grade, which you should have, since you appear to be impersonating a student up there, then you’d understand that those three … could not be construed as the technocratic core of the empire, and that’s who I described as little Eichmanns. That’s disingenuous bullshit you just spit out.”
Another unidentified audience member began to ask Churchill why he focused solely on perceived malfeasances by the United States and Israel, rather than Middle Eastern countries such as Saudi Arabia. When Churchill attempted to interrupt, the audience member said, to a smattering of applause and cheers, that “was probably why you got fired - you wouldn’t let people disagree with you.”
Tension heightened further when an audience member who identified himself as a University of California professor chastised Churchill.
“You came here propelling the thesis that Zionism, which most Jews consider to be the national movement of the Jewish people, is comparable to Nazis’,” the professor said, citing Palestinian population figures.
“Yes, it is,” Churchill responded.
“I think you failed in your thesis, and I’m in a position to give you a grade,” the audience member responded. “What I want to know is where are the God-damned Jews of Poland and Romania and Bulgaria and Czechoslovakia. And they were God-damned! Where are they? We know where the Palestinians are,” the professor said.
“Do you? Do you, professor?” Churchill said.
The debate between Churchill and the unidentified UC professor subsequently disintegrated into a shouting match, though less than half of the original crowd was still present to bear witness to it.
As the professor left the room, Churchill had one final comment for him.
“I’ll be at Berkeley next week,” Churchill said. “See you there.”
Update: Hilda and Pablo are roasting the dribbling goons over at PB for the aforementioned disingenuous bullshit. Alway worth a gander.
Update II: Meanwhile Mr. Martin posted the heading “Lies told” on the following portion of the article. Really? Name the lie, Mr. Martin. Otherwise one might have to assume, gasp, you’re the one lying your shriveled little ass off.
While Churchill’s question-and-answer session fostered a hostile and tense environment, his lecture progressed without interruption, save an occasional smattering of applause or murmur of unease.
“You find in the later pages of Mein Kampf an articulation of Hitler that comes from an analysis of empires,” Churchill said. “He’s examining the other European powers for models that would be an applicable model of the German destiny. He points directly to what he calls the Nordics of North America. The United States is the model.”. . .
In the last 15 minutes of his hour-long lecture, Churchill shifted his emphasis to Israel, arguing that Zionists use the same justifications as did Hitler to perpetrate what he believes is a Palestinian genocide. . . .
“You have active negotiations going on between more radical Zionist organizations, the fascist Italians and Nazis themselves,” he said. “Zionists would collaborate with the Nazis in what would be arranged as guerrilla operations against the British war effort … in exchange for a certain guarantee that there would be a territory set aside in that area for Jews and Jews alone.”
November 30th, 2007 at 8:02 pm
It’s oddly calm. Where did all your trolls go?
November 30th, 2007 at 9:03 pm
I banned the main firestarter for being a liar. Meanwhile, I’ll take John Martin’s silence as proof he’s the same.
December 1st, 2007 at 3:58 pm
I guess JWPAINE has decided to retalitate.
I called him on his bullshit and he couldn’t handle it, and this is what I now get:
“Banned by webmaster. Your comments will not be added”
December 2nd, 2007 at 8:04 pm
Yeah, it would be harder to get away with the curmudgeon act if he were a woman.
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In other news, the Willy Pickton trial went to jury. He killed at least 20 first nations women. The geography of it is weird - they had this super scary pig farm surrounded by suburban tracts on land they sold. The homeowners theoretically had no idea, but Pickton was recognized downtown as a ‘bad date’, and many suspected him. People also knew of Gary Ridgway before he was arrested; he killed the mother of an acquaintance in 1990.
Their laws are different and they have legal containment zones for drugs etc. but they don’t police violent crime in those zones.
http://www.nationalpost.com/news/story.html?id=139700
http://www.thestranger.com/seattle/Content?oid=16079
December 4th, 2007 at 1:03 pm
banned from PB, but they are still talking about me over there. Oh well.
December 4th, 2007 at 1:27 pm
Heh. It’s sure been fun watching you needle them. I think they’ve gone entirely off the tracks at this point.
December 5th, 2007 at 9:15 am
Right now I believe they’re denying global warming because it was snowing. Try and top that logic.
December 5th, 2007 at 7:46 pm
It’s actually really funny over on PB now. They can’t get enough of me over there, so they are calling some other guy Pablo. All jwpaine has to do is un-ban me, and I’ll be happy to go back and point out their fallacies for them all over again, since they want me back so bad.
Of course that would mean I would jump right back on jwpaine’s case and force him to actually address his prior fallacies. And the whole reason he banned me in the first place was because he realized I was right and he had no defense.
December 7th, 2007 at 8:52 am
“You have active negotiations going on between more radical Zionist organizations, the fascist Italians and Nazis themselves,” he said. “Zionists would collaborate with the Nazis in what would be arranged as guerrilla operations against the British war effort … in exchange for a certain guarantee that there would be a territory set aside in that area for Jews and Jews alone.”
Wow, he knows his history as that is exactly what happened as proven by the actual contracts and court records. I made the connection after 9/11 when I started to research what the lamestream media refused to talk about. If Ward knew this all along it’s no wonder the powers that be tossed everything plus the kitchen sink at him to try and discourage the truth from coming out.
I wonder if Ward just busts out laughing sometimes. The people that attack Ward prove all his points over and over. Ward knows their game. I feel bad for Ward because his detractors have the mental capacity of third graders and I mean that literally.
Ward certainly does put topics in a concise manner and has earned my respect many times over and that is not an easy thing to do.
December 7th, 2007 at 9:19 am
Third Graders have high mental capacity . (this has to be staged, BTW, for ratings. How would she know the word France without knowing it’s a country, plus she was on american idol so she’s an actor. ) Anyway, we had a 5th grade teacher giving us Animal Farm and 12 Angry Men and To Kill a Mockingbird (which are often delayed till high school), and kids understand the dynamics … just not the specific histories.
Another link- The Senate Intelligence Committee promises to review. http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5hyL3au-RZxEcch2P9ymXaJ9mroogD8TCAIDO0
December 7th, 2007 at 7:23 pm
“Third Graders have high mental capacity .”
Hmm, make that the mental capacity of a Zionist college graduate. I apologize to any third graders I offended.
December 8th, 2007 at 11:18 am
As long as you’re clear that this is zionist leaders you are referring to. It is easy to hear ‘the jews’ did such-and-such.
The leaders operate by scaring the wits out of their population and using the fear to get cooperation. Many times, we can recognize a test of whether a different nation would have behaved similarly if they had gone through similar circumstances. Perhaps one can risk making a false analogy, but I see this for the U.S. public’s reaction to the Sept. 2001 events. Americans haven’t suffered much, and we have physical access to news and education (which many countries don’t), yet look at how many people went ahead and supported Homeland security funds to protect midwestern cities, bag inspections at the Denver Greyhound, the NSA diverting a copy of all email traffic, spending $2 trillion on the Iraq debacle. Jewish people at least have a history of real persecution to back up their leaders encouraging their fear. On radio and various websites, I see evangelicals pushing a martyr myth that christians are the persecuted ones. My wealthy landlords seem to like me a lot, and if they’re around on Sunday they have taken me to their big bible church, and I go for the cultural experience (never read the bible) and brunch. One pastor or minister has a theme of appealing to the young generation, and talking of ‘vintage faith’, which is really repackaged fundamentalism. Watching this pastor, he constantly throws out ideas suggesting that christians are an oppressed group because secularitsts put them down, and talking about weekly opportunities to convert Hindus, pagans and other disreputable faiths. I bet this translates into some of the flock buying stories that the muslims hate our freedom
December 8th, 2007 at 6:17 pm
The Jewish Role in the Bolshevik Revolution and Russia’s Early Soviet Regime
http://www.ihr.org/jhr/v14/v14n1p-4_Weber.html
I ask myself why is their such vitriol towards Jewish people in general? Why are they despised in many places around the world? What in their culture makes some people angry towards them? I have many guesses from observation but I will let you decide what you want to learn and when you want to learn it.
Jews are not as persecuted as you may think but at the end of the day it’s about the battle between good and evil and not race. I encourage you to study the difference between believing in religion and believing in God. There is no church, land, person, material possession or building that is supposed to stand between you and God.
I do not post in fear that I might offend Jewish people. I make no apologies towards Jewish people either. I do not have to condone bad behavior by any race. The apology towards the third graders was a playful sarcastic remark. No, third graders are not in general brighter then college graduates or lifelong learners who have graduated high school.
Toss your TV out the window. Read “A Brave New World” and “Fahrenheit 451″. Study the hideous role of Jewish people during the Bolshevik Revolution. Study who now pushes scatology and why.
The epic battle on earth is that of good against evil. Cement your direct relationship with God and I think you will see that regardless of race or religion either one tries to be a good person or one turns to the devil and carries out evil acts.
December 8th, 2007 at 6:54 pm
My mother grew up in hitler germany, born in 1932, so she remembers all of it. Germany actually had a major progressive reform after WWI, because the population had suffered tremendous losses because of their repressive leaders. There were still some monarchs at that time. In the 20s and 30s, a model-minority jewish middle class was able to leave the ghetto and be accepted for the first time in the large cities of germany. They tended to be very assimilationist and often married out. My mom’s first grade teacher was jewish. If minority groups do not have some cultural practice keeping them together, they will dissolve into the hegemonic majority group very quickly. Just do the math - if there is one group of 90% of the population, another at 8% and another at 2%, and half of each group is open to random mixing - how many generations does it take until the very small group is gone. This applies very much to indigenous groups, BTW, who are more like
December 8th, 2007 at 9:40 pm
That does not hold true today. The mass media is owned and managed by a very small group of Zionists who have turned millions of people into soulless zombies. Want to know who is responsible for all the tats on women these days? That would be Zionist MTV/Viacom. Take a look at who started MTV, who later bought MTV out and how much negative influence MTV has had once the Zionists managed/owned it.
Why is their so much vitriol against Native Americans these days? This is because the Zionists have free reign to abuse their positions of power and influence. It was the Zionists that railroaded Ward and illegally fired him and continue to slander him in the lamestream media. Zionism is simply a different word for satanism. Zionists admitted to creating feminism and most often strive to create fascist police states which they managed to do in the USA after 9/11.
I do not celebrate Columbus Day because I refuse to glorify pilferers and murderers of which Columbus’s band of miscreants were. That being said, there were Native American Indian tribes that were extremely brutal towards other Native Americans and non-Native Americans as well. At the end of the day it comes down to whether or not a person, group or society condones evil or strives to be and do good.
Right now in the USA the powers that be have chosen to push sadism because of the sheer influence, money and power the Zionists have.
The Zionists are again in a position to harass Native Americans and that is why their was the brutality against Native Americans at the Denver parade. Most TV watching American zombies have no desire to study the reasons why Native Americans or their supporters are once again being brutalized. Thank the Zionists for dumbing down Americans.
As far as elementary teachers go the last I went to vote I saw a giant tat on a teacher who was also wearing a half shirt. I felt sorry for the boys that had to look at the nasty pot belly and tat the whole day. Who do you think inspired her to get the tat? The feminists did and feminism is a Zionist creation.
The Zionists can not manipulate sincerely Godly people but they can fool and manipulate religious people and atheists. The closer one is to God the more hate the Zionists will display towards that person.
December 9th, 2007 at 9:56 am
oops, a part of my comment got cut off, where I was saying that I think the basis of antisemitism is the overemphasis on the crucifixion story within the culture, fulfilling some sort of psychological need for martyrdom and heroism, combined with a misinterpretation of who killed jesus.
Your tattoo idea sounds really weird to me. I mean, I am not the sort to get one because I’d change my mind the next day. But how is tattoos on women relevant to anything. Has it occurred to you that your criticism implies a lack of acceptance of personal freedom for individuals to act as they like? Perhaps the 2nd wave settlers who ran indian boarding schools practiced a similar mentality, not tolerating other languages or the slightest deviation from the hegemonic borg culture they were imposing. CU is not run by zionists. Actually, your thing about the elementary teacher is funny. At my school, one teacher kept attempting to arouse community anger, assigning Brett Easton Ellis and so forth, but never was successful. Another man got in trouble for showing Platoon, then he started dating an 8th grader and I think they’re married now.
December 9th, 2007 at 9:35 pm
Are you over 18? Have you read any of the links I posted? Do you believe in God?
Tats on women show that the powers that be are pushing sadism as getting a tat is one sadistic ritual. 9/11 was a sadistic act. Those that got Ward fired for getting too close to the truth are sadists. Ask yourself who is pushing sadism and what do the they stand to gain.
A small number of Zionists control the media and they have brainwashed a lot of people to believe up is down and wrong is wright. You said that the reason you do not want a tat is because you might change your mind. That is a selfish statement that you have been conditioned to give. The feminst/Zionist mantra has been drummed into you since the day you entered public school. I am willing to bet that you are in or have gone to public schools most of your life. The reason not to get a tat is because it’s the mark of the beast and an insult God’s beautiful female creations.
I don’t care if you are allowed to get a tat or not. If you do I will simply know that you have been brainwashed to worship Satan and steer clear of you in the real world. I think women with tats are ugly and of the devil and that is my freedom to think that. So by alll means go get a tat one day. I will laugh at you in public just like you have the freedom to laugh at me for not getting a tat. You are free to join a church that tats all it’s members. I avoid all women with tats.
Ask yourself why all of the sudden girls are getting tats. When I was in school a grand total of zero girls had tats. Now more girls then boys have tats. How did that come about? Who decided to brainwash girls into getting tats and why?
It’s the Zionists, sadists, insincere Christians and feminists that are attacking Native Americans and not me.
Find out why the powers that be are trying so hard to silence Ward and his supporters. You are free to believe that Jews can do no wrong and that they have been persecuted like Native Americans have. I simply disagree 100% with that notion. I am not convinced the Jewish race in general has ever squared themselves with God. Read about the deals the Zionists made with Hitler’s army.
I do believe Native Americans in general have squared themselves with God and did so before the Europeans murdered and bamboozled them. I do not think Native Americans have much in common with Israel or Jewish people as I believe native Americans have a much healthier belief in God then most Jewish people do generally speaking.
http://www.ihr.org/jhr/v14/v14n1p-4_Weber.html
“Although officially Jews have never made up more than five percent of the country’s total population, they played a highly disproportionate and probably decisive role in the infant Bolshevik regime, effectively dominating the Soviet government during its early years. Soviet historians, along with most of their colleagues in the West, for decades preferred to ignore this subject. The facts, though, cannot be denied.”
Are not Jewish people about 5% of the USA population?
“Lenin himself was of mostly Russian and Kalmuck ancestry, but he was also one-quarter Jewish. His maternal grandfather, Israel (Alexander) Blank, was a Ukrainian Jew who was later baptized into the Russian Orthodox Church.”
December 10th, 2007 at 9:31 pm
So, WTF, I guess your kid isn’t going to get one of these 3rd wave toys for solstice?
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/news/news.html?in_article_id=412195&in_page_id=17
BTW, after the russian revolution failed, and it was clear that the incentives of that system would never allow it to work and would always make it repressive, then there was no excuse to support communism. The first time in 1917 though, things were pretty darn repressive in Russia, What do you think they should have done? The reason Churchill and friends opposed some communist style governments in central America is because they emphasize class above culture. So if some jewish people such as Marx supported communism, wouldn’t that mean that they were abandoning the importance of their culture to promote mass group equality? How does that support the idea of a zionist ingroup plot.
December 10th, 2007 at 9:36 pm
http://www.americangirl.co.uk/americangirl/americangirl.php/2007/2/19/britney_spears_has_gone_mad
December 10th, 2007 at 11:02 pm
I’m having trouble with the tattoo thing. Tattoos predate this culture by a long shot, and do different cultural work depending on who’s doing them.
That said, I ain’t saying every tattoo artist ain’t sadistic. Got a friend who owned a tattoo shop for awhile, and he used to speak at length about enjoying causing over-indulged college students great pain. But I don’t think I’d extrapolate his views to the entirety of the world.
And, moreover, I don’t see 9/11 as a sadistic act. I don’t see psycho-sexual compulsion as having a whole lot to do with it.
December 12th, 2007 at 7:54 am
Benjamin
My views on tats come from a belief in one God (good) for the universe. I was born in the USA with a Christian upbringing. That is the angle I have when I post about my opinions on tats. Through observation over 20 years I have noticed certain sadistic characteristic of women with tats. I believe the powers that be are sadists. I believe that it’s Zionists attacking Ward. I view Zionism as a tool of Satan and tats as a sadistic ritual.
My research has led me to conclude there is one God for all people.I believe there are two types of people. Those walking towards God and those walking away. I put people with tats and especially women with tats in the category of people walking away from God.
At the highest levels in our country the powers that be want as many sadist minions as they can get to do their dirty work here on earth. So they brainwash women to desecrate their own bodies with tats. They promote scatology, violent sexual acts, glorify and commit murder, torture, promote feminism and many more despicable acts. They create race wars and purposefully pit man and woman against each other in destructive ways all the while enriching themselves with their minions cash.
The masses brainwashed by the mass media and some public schools are too numb to care or they stop learning after say 5th grade. The powers that be want the dumbest most brainwashed population they can construct as they simply want slaves who slowly erase the middle class. They want a few very wealthy people and the rest worker slaves. To do this they have to promote sadism and in essance “boil the frogs.”
Zionists are masters of promoting sadism. They also happen to own or manage most mass media outlets. So take a look at sadistic rituals and then watch the mainstream TV or talk to say a few dozen female elementary public school teachers. You may be surprised to notice certain rituals are actively being promoted.
About 9/11
This is a link that describes my views:
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=7866929448192753501&q=loosechange+2&hl=en
December 12th, 2007 at 8:06 am
“How does that support the idea of a zionist ingroup plot.”
I posted that 5% of the Jews wielded a lot of influence during the Bolshevik Revolution. Stalin murdered millions of people.
You did not answer my questions so my responses to you will be limited. I gave you links supporting my contention that Hitler’s military struck deals with the Zionists so I am not going to repeat myself to you. You can research what you want or better yet go to the tat shop and flip me the bird while you get a tat that says you love Satan! Gooooo Satan!!!!!!!! Yeahhhhh!
That pole dancer toy link was a joke right? Is it actually a product? Funny stuff if it is. Not appropriate for kids but very funny gift.
December 12th, 2007 at 8:25 am
I like to think of myself as more sauntering away from God.
December 12th, 2007 at 11:59 am
“I like to think of myself as more sauntering away from God.”
Lol, you can’t fool me. I think you are walking towards God these days.
December 13th, 2007 at 8:25 pm
this is way below the top post now. I can’t engage on a lot of that. friend whose mother was killed by Gary Ridgway’s boyfriend got into Zeitgeist and has sold his stuff, to move to New Zealand to beg work at farms while U.S. economy collapses. This is depressing.
Here is a question regarding religion though. Do you think scripture or book oriented religion is inherently colonialist? i.e. why did god decide to give a book to a special person and tell them to create a movement to conquer the planet, or at least delay for hundreds of years the time until the unfavored would hear, if indeed the bible is invaluable to being one with Gd. don’t buy it. perhaps instead god performed a miracle and some people wrote it down, and a committee edited it together.
I tend to think this, and if I were to get religious I think I’d take a shakerism approach. This idea has arisen independently several times, including indian shakers in the NW, and the key idea is being nonbible-based, and directly speaking to god. I have never heard anything from god myself, but I don’t doubt at all that other people do. But I’ve had a nice life the last decade, and have paid little attention- maybe I’ll try when my friends start dying or I still can’t get a job during the recession. I think the last christian-scientist in my family just died, as the rest all left and took up drinking
December 14th, 2007 at 5:57 am
Ivy
I believe in God over religion. I encourage you to study the differences between the two. God gives each one of us on this earth free will. It’s up to you how you want to use God’s gifts given you. Religions are man made and all are flawed in different ways because of that.