“It’s particularly odd that this group of pie-slingers chose the Social Forum for their attack. The first ever Social Forum in the United States was supposed to be a place to grow our movement, to build unity, to respect differences, to embrace each other. These Bay Area Bakers could have spent their time meeting Katrina survivors from the Gulf, homeless advocates from Atlanta, immigrant rights leaders from Chicago or attending some of the 900 workshops being offered. Instead they spent their time plotting an attack against someone with whom they probably agree on 90 percent of the issues. The organizers of the forum, seeing the incident as both an individual assault and an assault on the very principles of the forum, publicly denounced the attack during one of the main plenaries.”
If you support this, does it then make it acceptable for someone to come into an instructor’s class on a university and pie them in the face?
Its unfortunate that the perpetrator, and the person who did the footage, both wish to remain hidden.
I would agree with you on that, Benjamin. It is mostly symbolic over anything, even though its actually considered by the law in several states (including New York and California) as minor assault and battery.
Plus if anyone I don’t personally know (and like) throws a pie at me, I reserve the right to kick their ass. (Or at the very least, fantasize about it.
Clicking on the tard site, I noticed that ISO signed with them. There’s a soul crushing group.
Given that the useful function of either ‘coalition’ is to provide an infrastructure for people coming into town, so they don’t have figure out where to stay, or just organize marches or events on the spot. I figure a schedule of events proposed by a variety of groups should be handed out, and someone should have thought through emergency preparedness. It;’s still 2 months off, but r68 actually has more of this. tent state has this concert. Where is it going to be? People can’t march all day and could use a few classes and discussion groups early in the morning, and art, but spending energy on the concert isn’t helpful if it isn’t right by the pepsi center where it would look like a political demo. Definitely, I would not show up to hang out at a tent teach in the whole time. Their website says “Tent State University will be putting on a “free university” throughout the coarse of the Democratic National Convention.” I think most young people would get antcy if that goes on in the middle of the day, but you do need a spot to meet some other folks in the morning over coffee. The tent state site lists some stuff, but it is Unconventional action events etc. and they even write “tent state endorses disruption of fundraisers” (hecka nonviolent language there) What does it mean to sign with them. They aren’t listing any symbolic events at sites around downtown or marches or anything yet. I would say the IVAW is independent, essentially. could anyone tell on a flyer that they’re r68 or tard?
Especially because, as far as I know, Tent State’s gonna be setup in a park located nowhere near downtown, 4 miles from the Pepsi center. They couldn’t even get that together. I’d be surprised if they get 1,000 participants.
June 28th, 2008 at 5:38 pm
S’pose that was one of those “organic, enviro-friendly” pies?
June 28th, 2008 at 10:27 pm
A pie in the face is the least the Medea deserves.
June 30th, 2008 at 5:25 pm
The organization who claimed responsibility is called Bakers Without Borders. There is a video of the pie toss at the bottom of this page:
http://www.indybay.org/newsitems/2007/07/01/18432047.php
And Medea’s response is here:
http://www.indybay.org/newsitems/2007/07/02/18432132.php
“It’s particularly odd that this group of pie-slingers chose the Social Forum for their attack. The first ever Social Forum in the United States was supposed to be a place to grow our movement, to build unity, to respect differences, to embrace each other. These Bay Area Bakers could have spent their time meeting Katrina survivors from the Gulf, homeless advocates from Atlanta, immigrant rights leaders from Chicago or attending some of the 900 workshops being offered. Instead they spent their time plotting an attack against someone with whom they probably agree on 90 percent of the issues. The organizers of the forum, seeing the incident as both an individual assault and an assault on the very principles of the forum, publicly denounced the attack during one of the main plenaries.”
If you support this, does it then make it acceptable for someone to come into an instructor’s class on a university and pie them in the face?
Its unfortunate that the perpetrator, and the person who did the footage, both wish to remain hidden.
June 30th, 2008 at 7:00 pm
I think most people, even university instructors, could probably survive a pie in the face without too much trauma.
June 30th, 2008 at 7:47 pm
I would agree with you on that, Benjamin. It is mostly symbolic over anything, even though its actually considered by the law in several states (including New York and California) as minor assault and battery.
Plus if anyone I don’t personally know (and like) throws a pie at me, I reserve the right to kick their ass. (Or at the very least, fantasize about it.
June 30th, 2008 at 8:19 pm
Is she crying? What a fucking baby.
June 30th, 2008 at 9:36 pm
http://www.counterpunch.org/seattlediary.html here is where people were getting angry with them.
Clicking on the tard site, I noticed that ISO signed with them. There’s a soul crushing group.
Given that the useful function of either ‘coalition’ is to provide an infrastructure for people coming into town, so they don’t have figure out where to stay, or just organize marches or events on the spot. I figure a schedule of events proposed by a variety of groups should be handed out, and someone should have thought through emergency preparedness. It;’s still 2 months off, but r68 actually has more of this. tent state has this concert. Where is it going to be? People can’t march all day and could use a few classes and discussion groups early in the morning, and art, but spending energy on the concert isn’t helpful if it isn’t right by the pepsi center where it would look like a political demo. Definitely, I would not show up to hang out at a tent teach in the whole time. Their website says “Tent State University will be putting on a “free university” throughout the coarse of the Democratic National Convention.” I think most young people would get antcy if that goes on in the middle of the day, but you do need a spot to meet some other folks in the morning over coffee. The tent state site lists some stuff, but it is Unconventional action events etc. and they even write “tent state endorses disruption of fundraisers” (hecka nonviolent language there) What does it mean to sign with them. They aren’t listing any symbolic events at sites around downtown or marches or anything yet. I would say the IVAW is independent, essentially. could anyone tell on a flyer that they’re r68 or tard?
July 1st, 2008 at 7:47 am
Especially because, as far as I know, Tent State’s gonna be setup in a park located nowhere near downtown, 4 miles from the Pepsi center. They couldn’t even get that together. I’d be surprised if they get 1,000 participants.
July 1st, 2008 at 11:18 am
Grant Crowell “reserves the right to kick somebody’s ass”???
HA-HA-HA-HA-HA-HA-HA…
July 1st, 2008 at 4:10 pm
I just did today.
http://www.reelseo.com/smx-local-mobile-conference-video/
(Yes, I do have a day job.)
July 1st, 2008 at 6:07 pm
In this pic you look eager for a pie. LOL!
http://www.grantasticdesigns.com/blog/graphics/grant-crowell-20070813.jpg
July 1st, 2008 at 6:31 pm
You’re right, I do. Make mine banana-cream, infused with Jack Daniels. Mmmm…..